Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Taylormade Spider X Chalk SS. Top 100 Player Analysis. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. Justin [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . Thanks for posting. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Not at all. [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] 5 Testers Needed! Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. By T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF [/quote] Physics First. I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. That's my opinion at least. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. Either way I don't care. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. I don't measure my driver distance. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. Justin Thomas' Distances - Tour Talk - GolfWRX To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. Apex Height 112' 11" Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. Your shot versatility is obtained by a comprehensive 23 head options in different lofts, grinds and bounces. a lower loft) or a touch weaker (i.e. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. Skill Triumphs Over All! Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management I think you wish you hit it further. Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Spin: 3811. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. One suggestion could be to setup course length based on club speed and optimal driver efficiency. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. DShawn Johnson I can't seem to find them. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. Lol, so true.. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. This put him near the bottom of the pack. %PDF-1.5 My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi Especially the average driving distance data. However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Titleist 906F4 13.5* Fuji Rombax 8Z08 X Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. How Often Do Pros Hit Driver? My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. I also shot 86. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Mike Austin Swing: When Does the Release Start? Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). me too! Maybe 126 or 127. Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) Made more swing improvement of late and starting to control my driver more. The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. Most golfers think that the guys on the PGA Tour hit the ball incredibly long. 714 AP2 4-p This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! Either way I don't care. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. [/quote] [/quote] All that strength comes from the lower body. [/quote] The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. 3-irons average 217 yds, 4-irons 208 yds, 5-irons 199 yds, 6-irons 188 yds, 7-irons 177 yds, 8-irons 164 yds and 9-irons 153 yds. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. 913 HD Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. TrackMan - Did you see Justin Thomas' TrackMan numbers? . [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] It's good for some laughs. Distance to Apex 195.9 Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . Tee and Approach Shots! He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. [/quote] The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. x]I]618nI9^R? You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. Mack Made Custom Blade. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. I have played golf for 22 years. But he does not average those. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. The following is Torrey Pines South, where golfers line up each morning for a chance to play one of Americas 100 Greatest Public Courses (Golf Digest). :-). Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). More photos from the event here. [/quote] My experience suggests that this is true. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. Display as a link instead, You cannot paste images directly. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! For more I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? Its a whole different story. Torrey Pines South, huh? Carry Distance 302.9 Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. TEST INFO TOTAL SCORE Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . I don't play professional golf. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. Launch Angle 11.28 After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. any 7 iron data ? 712u 3 The pros, like the rest of us, will be hitting a driver as far as they can 99% of the time but when it comes to their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrids they can be using those clubs off the tee and for approach shots and will not always be aiming for their maximum yardage with those clubs. [/quote] [/quote] Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. Dont think they ever release that stuff. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Length is nothing. Victoria II. Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. 2 were over 320. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for.